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Are they green-collar criminals or civil ‘disobedients’?

When the government claims that only non-disruptive protests are"civil", it risks censoring those who seek to go beyond mere symbolic actions and have some impact on others through their protest.

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Peaceful protest isn’t being oppressed here. The issue is the disregard for others in these cases.
The way they decided to approach their protest is the issue. Take a look at how all of the students who protested climate change and the government’s approached the issue - they didn’t place themselves and others in a potentially dangerous situation, nor did they hold up people going about their day without warning so alternatives could be sought. They also, crucially, didn’t inhibit emergency workers’ ability to do their job, stopping them from getting to emergency situations as fast as possible.
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No problem with protest it is a right but trespassing on private property, theft, bullying and intimidation are unacceptable. Always have been and always will be I hope.
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I love eating meat so don't agree with this protest.
Something everyone should be worried about is people being arrested for protesting.
Protesting is the only way for those without wealth to"lobby" the government.
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I totally support their campaign against the cruelty of industrialised meat production. Social media and the efforts of animal activists has made me aware of the cruelty of dairy and I no longer have any dairy. The same with pig production and no longer touch any pig product."From the moment they are born to the moment their necks are slit, the vast majority of animals raised and killed for food will experience lives of unremitting torment. They will not know contentment, respite, safety, happiness, or kindness. Instead, they will live a short life characterized by inescapable discomfort, social deprivation, the thwarting of every natural instinct and constant stress, all punctuated by moments of agonizing pain, terror, and the deliberate infliction upon them of harm and eventually, a brutal and untimely death." Nathan Winograd
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I don't agree with their cause - and I'm not even a vegetarian, let alone a vegan - but the response is troubling. I wonder if Australians realise what's at stake here.
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"I disapprove of what you do, but I will defend to the death your right to do it". (Apologies to Voltaire's friend Hall)
I disagree with their particular cause, and they could be regarded by Melbourne commuters as a total pain in the arse, but civil disobedience is not criminal, and criminalising effective disruption is the mark of totalitarianism.
If I disrupt something to make an effective moral protest, then I accept that there will be consequences, but I am not acting with criminal intent. I accept that I may be fined or spend a few days in pokey for my troubles, but making only token protests that don't cause trouble will not change anything. How many more years until women would have waited to have the vote if the Suffragettes had played by the rules? Would the Franklin Wild River have been saved without the illegal blockaders? Did Rosa Parks obey the rules? How much longer would the Vietnam war have dragged on without illegal sit-ins and disruptive marches?
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I think people are starting to see the incompatibility between saying they love animals, and meat eating.
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Of course its good to have a conversation about the inhumane treatment of animals. We should be showing them respect because they feed us. Protest is a good way to do that. However, marching uninvited onto private properties in the middle of the night is not on at all.
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I can't help but remember demonstrations that were so unpopular decades ago...Vietnam War and so on. This is part of human progress. Nothing changes if we don't disagree about issues like this one. I'd like to see society start caring anout the wellbeing of all animals, then we'd all be so much better off.
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Protest away my friends. Get out there and give 'em HELL! Love your work. <3
And... if you stop one group from protesting... your closely held belief is next on the addenda. Don't like people protesting for animal rights? Next they'll'' try to stop protests about human rights, refugees, right to an abortion, deforestation, criminal corporate neglect, wages, clean water, paedophile priests? If the government want's to stop free speech about animal rights, what makes you think your cause won't be next? Boo hoo, some people were late for work - get over it! It's not the first protest to disrupt traffic, and I certainly hope it won't be the last.
Democracy is built on civil disobedience. All change comes at a price.
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Yes. We have to be able to protest - of course. Of the world would be even more hellish. Think Tianamen Square.
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How nice that they have the means to decide what they shall and shall not consume I care not either way but for the poor who would be most pleased with a chop if offered with small consideration for those whom would protest.
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