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Economics renames to appeal to int'l students

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Some economics departments are changing the formal classification of their programs so that international students have more opportunities to work in the U.S. after they graduate.

It may seem like the most bureaucratic of changes, but changing the formal classification -- what’s known as the federal CIP code -- for an economics program from the one for “economics, general” to the one for “econometrics and quantitative economics” means that international graduates of those programs can work in the U.S. for two extra years after they graduate while staying on their student visas.
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Department of Homeland Security considers econometrics and quantitative economics -- but not general economics -- to be a STEM field. International graduates of designated STEM programs are eligible for what’s known as the STEM OPT extension, which enables them to work in their field for a total of three years in the U.S. while staying on their universities’ sponsorship. By contrast, students with degrees in non-STEM fields are only eligible for one year of OPT, which stands for optional practical training.
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Is this the right thing to do?
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Social Work and Human Services are the same, but occasionally they try to appeal/appear a smarter look. They change names and usually split departments. Some go as far to describe topics through overcategorized physics style wordings. Really has no value beyond everyday wording and usually only in common controversial topic classes.
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The reasons for reclassification are not mere hype as many who have replied to this post seem to think. Economics as a discipline has evolved since the days of Keynes and Marshall... now more than ever Statistical and Machine learning methods, mathematical programming and abstract algebra are being used to solve theoretical problems in Economics. Hence many schools have a revised curricula with more quantitative courses included .. hence the renaming is not a fad but actually a real shift in paradigm.
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If the US wants to continue attracting and retaining talent, renaming majors won't do. These BSs such as delays in processing student visa work authorizations, reduction of H1B quotas, etc have to stop.
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The reasons for reclassification are not mere hype as many who have replied to this post seem to think. Economics as a discipline has evolved since the days of Keynes and Marshall... now more than ever Statistical and Machine learning methods, mathematical programming and abstract algebra are being used to solve theoretical problems in Economics. Hence many schools have a revised curricula with more quantitative courses included .. hence the renaming is not a fad but actually a real shift in paradigm.
Not in any US undergrad program that I've heard of. Even for grad there's a wide range of quantitative focus at different schools and true Econometrics is usually either a specialty within Economics or (as in my case) a separate degree offering. Agreed that things are shifting, but quantitative work is still extremely lacking in Econ undergrad curricula.
Additionally, Yale and Columbia, the schools that made the changes are quite different. Yale is strong in graduate Econometrics so I can better understand that change, but I wouldn't say Columbia's graduate Econ program is especially quantitatively focused so in their case it seems more like hype.
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Not in any US undergrad program that I've heard of. Even for grad there's a wide range of quantitative focus at different schools and true Econometrics is usually either a specialty within Economics or (as in my case) a separate degree offering. Agreed that things are shifting, but quantitative work is still extremely lacking in Econ undergrad curricula.
Additionally, Yale and Columbia, the schools that made the changes are quite different. Yale is strong in graduate Econometrics so I can better understand that change, but I wouldn't say Columbia's graduate Econ program is especially quantitatively focused so in their case it seems more like hype.
I so agree with you. International students are just cash cows for US schools: they pay full tuition fees, are discriminated against when it comes to financial aid (as revealed by the 2017 data glitch at Stanford), and once they graduate they have to go through an administrative hell to get work authorization. The name of their majors is the least of their concern.
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I saw a course not a major titled econometrics about 5 yrs ago at the University of Toronto and asked the person taking it — “Whattt? What is econometrics?” and their reply was so unconvincing I can not to this day tell you what it is.
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Whatever subject focuses on human behaviour can't be appropriately called"science", because human behaviour is not fully predictable. Yet, adding some quantitative backbone to technique of economics can help economic theories to became less vague when trying to predict a scenario. This is both good and bad, because predictions can be quite wrong, even when accompanied by numbers.
But if the reason has to do with immigration and visas, then it's a whole different story.
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Whatever subject focuses on human behaviour can't be appropriately called"science", because human behaviour is not fully predictable. Yet, adding some quantitative backbone to technique of economics can help economic theories to became less vague when trying to predict a scenario. This is both good and bad, because predictions can be quite wrong, even when accompanied by numbers.
But if the reason has to do with immigration and visas, then it's a whole different story.
Ah, yes. Same as we can't fully predict the movement of particles, therefore physics isn't science. We also can't fully predict cancer, so cross biology out of the science list! Your reasoning is not really valid here, Ale.
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So they can pretend that there is no social context in which economic activity and measurement takes place. They don't want to consider all of the"economically irrational" decision making that happens.
A question: do they still believe that disasters only increase the GNP?
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International students don't care about the names of your majors, they want to be able to work. You want to attract them? Make your administration efficient and allow them to work once they graduate. So far, international students are just cash cows for US schools: they pay full tuition fees, are discriminated against when it comes to financial aid (as revealed by the 2017 data glitch at Stanford), and once they graduate they have to go through an administrative hell to get work authorization.
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